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William Edwin Thorne was born in 1893 at Hucknall and was the son of Frederick Thorne and his first wife the late Isabel Rose Thorne née James of Gower, Swansea, Wales. His father Frederick was born in 1861 in Studham, Bedfordshire, his mother Isabel Rose James was born in 1867 at Dover she died in 1907 at Nottingham she was 39 years of age, they were married in 1887 their marriage was recorded in the Basford registration district, they went on to have the following children, George b1888, Rosalind b1890, Robert H b1891, William Edwin b1893, all were born at Hucknall, they went on to have Ethel b1896 Bulwell, Francis Bertram b1897 Bulwell, Leonard b 1900 Bulwell and Reginald b1907 Bulwell In the 1911 census his father and siblings were living at 66 Clages Street, Buwell and are shown as Frederick 52 yrs a widow a miner contractor, he is living with Gertrude Marriott 29 yrs his housekeeper and her daughter Ethel Marriott 1 year of age and his sons Bert 14 yrs Len 11 yrs, William 9 yrs and Reg 4 years of age. In the same 1911 census William Edwin Thorne is living at 94 Bailey Street, Basford, he is living with James Dakin 34 yrs a memorial sculptor and his wife Annie Sarah, he is shown as being 18 yrs a wine merchants clerk,a boarder, also living at the address is his brother Robert Henry Thorne 20 yrs a memorial sculptor, His father Frederick went on to marry his housekeeper Gertrude Marriott in 1917 in Nottingham.
He was a wine merchants clerk in the 1911 census.
13 Nov 1916
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Lance Sergeant
24th Bn Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment)
Lance Sergeant William Edwin Thorne, enlisted at Swansea whilst residing at Gower, Swansea he served with the 24th Battalion (2nd Sportsman's) Royal Fusiliers and was killed in action on 13th November 1916. He is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial.
The regimental history records the circumstances of the action: “The 24th Battalion alone took part in the initial advance. As the left battalion of the 5th Brigade their flank was influenced by the failure further north. At 5.15 a.m. the attacking companies left the trenches in a dense fog, reformed in No Man's Land, and moved forward with the general advance at 5.45 a.m. The barrage was followed closely, the men being within 20 yards of it over the whole battalion front. Some shells, indeed, fell short and caused casualties, but the men followed coolly at a walking pace into the German front line trenches, and a numerous dug-out population emerged to surrender. The troops went on, and at 6.15 had taken the major part of their objective, the Green line — the German third line system. C and D Companies were cleaning up the trenches. It was early realised that the assault on the left flank had been unsuccessful, and all trenches leading north were blocked. This advance, though not spectacular, was useful in the general scheme of things; and it had not been achieved without considerable losses. On the 14th the battalion's positions were taken over by the supporting battalion, the 2nd Oxford and Bucks.” Pte. John Thompson, 24th Battalion (2nd Sportsman’s) Royal Fusiliers, wrote of some of his experiences on the Somme in a letter to the local press. He recorded the deaths of two friends at Beaumont Hamel on 13th November 1916 the following article was published in the Notts Local News published 27th January 1917 :- “EXPERIENCES AT THE FRONT. “The following letter has been received from Private J. W. Thompson, R.F. (Sportsman’s Battalion), in which he refers to some of his experiences, and states he was with Sergeant Thorne (whose photograph has been published in our columns) when he was killed. He says:- “Being an old Hucknallite, and always receiving your paper weekly, I thought you might find space for a few lines in your welcome paper. I am not permitted to mention things that I should like, so I shall have to put it the best way possible and short. “At the outset, having been out at the front, in and out of the trenches, for the past 14 months, I have had some weird experiences, and should very much like to change with some of the can’t-be-spared-sort-of-men that appear in your columns. They would readily realise there was a war if they had but a few days in the trenches with coal boxes flying about them. Well do I remember on the Somme, it was Somme do – how all through one night we waited to attack at dawn. The waiting was much worse than the attack but when the word was given how they all went over like one. The worst parts of these attacks are the counter-attacks by the enemy, then he gets the wind up (common saying for “fear”) and then you suddenly come to the thought he has still a few shells left. It was one of the coal boxes in _____ wood that killed three privates and wounded the Sergt.-Major. Little did I know two had gone for the doctor, and, sad to relate, never returned, that I was sent, and pleased to say returned along a road that was being simply riddled with shells. “So much for the Somme. We next prepared ourselves for anything else that came along, and eventually found ourselves in the Ancre battle. With a bit of luck I came out of that all right, but lost my two chums, well-known in football and golfing circles by the names of Billy Thorne (killed) and B. Warhurst (missing) late Basford United F. C. It was rather hard, considering you have had 14 months with its trials and troubles. Thorne was about to leave us to take up a commission, after having risen to the rank of sergeant.” Above article is courtesy of Jim Grundy and his facebook pages Small Town Great War Hucknall 1914-1918
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